@LynnParks @Commulinks @LauraE and so many of us think that a 'creative only' section on the forums would be beneficial for not only the issue that was being discussed as well as relevant issues that right now cannot specifically be discussed without perhaps bending the rules, breaking the rules, creating issues, etc. Now I, myself, am not bringing this here in hopes that we can have a place where the rules are different and we can just nonchalantly discuss whatever, please understand that. But perhaps the rules could be a little bit different in this area and it will give us a place to discuss CREATIVE ONLY issues and seek SH advisement as well as advisement from our fellow creatives and be able to find solutions and offer advice that doesn't seem like it is targeting specific people, things, or is suggestive of things.
The reason I do support this idea is because of an issue that happened with @Marye5 and myself here recently and has also happened with a few other creatives and myself. It is so hard for us to be able to discuss things with and amongst each other (messages are backwards in function and being able to message someone has to rely on far to many factors and is hard reaching out to that specific person or even a group of people, we may not be able to contact people offsite (even though many of us have formed friendships enough to be able to do so), messages are only one-on-one and if an issue is shared among many that makes things even more complicated, etc and so on). It is also hard utilizing the forums without fear of penalization because some topics are relevant to be discussed because we are creatives and there are issues that we as creatives have to deal with and need advisement on either from SH or our fellow creatives but we can't for fear of possibly going against the rules that are set in place for forum usage because they deal with potentials of certain issues or may seem targeted depending on if you are creative vs. staff, or CH (even when they are legitimate concerns and have no intention whatsoever of being targeted).
Note: Now, let me assure, I am not saying that all things should be able to be discussed and I am also not saying that it should be okay for topics to 'point fingers' or seem suggestive of certain ideas, problems, or as if they reference specific issues and or people. No. The blue button does work for most things, yes and should remain an option, but the blue button has it's limitations and the problem with the blue button on handling issues or getting feedback on certain situations -- is it only works for that specific person and it may also take some time to get an answer. Many times when an issue comes up on SH there are many of us that are having it at the same time and sometimes some of us can help the others or provide advice, reassurements, etc. I can even speak from experience that there have been at least three issues I have BBed as a representative of those on the forum and myself that were having that specific issue and wanted better explanation. I'm still waiting for explanation and better understanding on all three of these issues and it's been some time. So having a space where we can work to figure things out, help each other with advice on solutions of issues and concerns, or in times where everyone is at a standstill and the topic revolves around a creative ONLY issue -- we could tag @SH moderators or @SH team even to help -- would be beneficial.
Same as perhaps a CH only forum would work as well for any issues or questions they may have. And then the overall board itself for indirect SH issues or ideas that affect everyone.
I hope that this comes across clearly. I don't want anyone to think that any of us have an issue with how the forum is now or even the rules that are in place. However, as SH has evolved into the big and great place that it is and as things have chaged and evolved there are now issues that only creatives have, issues that on CHs have, and as a way for both groups to find relevant support and information about these issues (either ones from the past that they have yet to see is referenced on the forum already, or ones that may happen in ten minutes that only affect the creatives with entering names or one that may happen in twenting where all CHs briefs start adding /'s and coding jargon and make the age wonk out) it would be nice for such issues to be categorized as either creative, CH, or 'general SH'. After all, I am sure I am not the only one that has had to use the search bar on the forums to look for specific issues only to find out that there are many topics about such but at different times and about different aspects of the issue and it's just difficult to find the answers sometimes and having them categorized into the groups could allow us to have better reference. As far as it being limited access to those in that group? It boils down to certain things needing to be discussed that is more limited to just creatve issues, just CH issues, or overall issues. It's not meant as a way to cicumnavigate the rules much less break them, but sometimes certain things do need to be discussed and you need advice or something that has no place in 'general' discussion and limited to only being an issue that only each respective group would understand or share in that issue.
I don't know if this is coming across right. I just see that it could be positive areas where each group would be just slightly less restrained and able to help each other. Each side both CHs and creatives have things to gain by helping each other, and concerns they share and being able to discuss them, get advice on them, know what to do in certain cases, and other such things. There could be areas for this to take place so that brainstorming and resolutions can take place. Again, I personally don't see it as a way to mitigate the rules or such but more of a means of a space for us to help each other, advise each other for specific issues that we creatives may have either with our side of the site, our side of coming up with names, our side of IP rights, etc. And CHs could have theirs for issues they have with types of names or ideas being generated, how to create better briefs and still maybe be breif about it, what to do with and after audience testing, what do do with a name that you absolutely love but audience testing didn't favor, and any other kinds of issues each side may have and be able to talk to their fellow persective groups or even SH about possible steps in these respective groups that the 'general public' or even the other group shouldn't have to worry about -- and then the main forum be the place for sitwide issues, sitewide concerns, address @all type subjects, overall encouragements, etc.